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Post by T-man2010 on Oct 5, 2024 9:08:09 GMT -6
Likely part of what went into the decision to keep Korchinski with the big club last year was to help Bedard adjust to the NHL. There is a big difference between an 18-year-old kid and veterans of 23 or older. Young adults mature a great deal both physically but also emotionally in those few short years. Bedard knew few players when he came here. He and Korchinski were basically on their own. You do not want your star player to feel socially isolated or lonely. Now that Bedard has been in Chicago for a full year, this potentially destructive issue is less problematic. Bedard likely is okay; he has met some friends by now if not within the organization then outside. Korchinski is best served learning the pro game in the AHL. Your last sentence might be correct and I respect this opinion. Your point about a young teammate to help Bedard adjust might be a factor as was his AHL/Jr's vs NHL situation last year,but my questions still remain. If he was with the big club only because he had to be or to help another young player adjust,why did he see the 3rd most starts and the 4th highest TOI on the team? Thanks a lot kid but Connor doesn't need your companionship anymore so adios? You were only here last year because we had nowhere else to send ya? The kid'll probably accept his reassignment and try to make the most of it but not even having a legit chance to make the roster this year could linger too. To those who followed closer than me last year,would a 2nd consecutive NHL season have been a 'trainwreck' or 'potentially destructive' to the kid's development? Were his mistakes those of the average rookie D-man that become fewer with experience? Over-classed on a nightly basis? Too small to handle the league? If he was here for factors other than his play and if the answer to any of my other questions is yes..........then why in the hell was he utilized so heavily? I have no idea what needs to be done with him whether this move is bad or good for the kid. I ASSUME they know this kids pyschological mindset and how/if he can make the best of this situation. Is the pressure off his shoulders of being an NHL'er right now and just concentrate on his fundamentals in Rockford. I see him back before this season ends as injuries will play a part with this aged defensive group. |
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Post by mvr on Oct 5, 2024 10:11:37 GMT -6
Likely part of what went into the decision to keep Korchinski with the big club last year was to help Bedard adjust to the NHL. There is a big difference between an 18-year-old kid and veterans of 23 or older. Young adults mature a great deal both physically but also emotionally in those few short years. Bedard knew few players when he came here. He and Korchinski were basically on their own. You do not want your star player to feel socially isolated or lonely. Now that Bedard has been in Chicago for a full year, this potentially destructive issue is less problematic. Bedard likely is okay; he has met some friends by now if not within the organization then outside. Korchinski is best served learning the pro game in the AHL. Your last sentence might be correct and I respect this opinion. Your point about a young teammate to help Bedard adjust might be a factor as was his AHL/Jr's vs NHL situation last year,but my questions still remain. If he was with the big club only because he had to be or to help another young player adjust,why did he see the 3rd most starts and the 4th highest TOI on the team? Thanks a lot kid but Connor doesn't need your companionship anymore so adios? You were only here last year because we had nowhere else to send ya? The kid'll probably accept his reassignment and try to make the most of it but not even having a legit chance to make the roster this year could linger too. To those who followed closer than me last year,would a 2nd consecutive NHL season have been a 'trainwreck' or 'potentially destructive' to the kid's development? Were his mistakes those of the average rookie D-man that become fewer with experience? Over-classed on a nightly basis? Too small to handle the league? If he was here for factors other than his play and if the answer to any of my other questions is yes..........then why in the hell was he utilized so heavily? Playing in a losing culture is not good for any player. My hope is that all the kids - Allan included - get sent to the AHL for the entire year, and that the IceHogs play a competitive game. At this stage, there is zero point in subjecting any of them to the environment that Davidson deliberately created in Chicago. Already we have seen the damage done to Reichel and Soderblom, among others. I blame management here, not the players, for the failure to develop these players. I am hopeful, though far from confident, that Bedard's game and confidence does not suffer too much. Hopefully he has a strong enough sense of self-confidence to persevere through this experience. It would be catastrophic if Bedard does not reach his true potential as a game breaking star. Tanking a roster comes with many casualties. |
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Post by hsbob on Oct 5, 2024 10:11:49 GMT -6
Your last sentence might be correct and I respect this opinion. Your point about a young teammate to help Bedard adjust might be a factor as was his AHL/Jr's vs NHL situation last year,but my questions still remain. If he was with the big club only because he had to be or to help another young player adjust,why did he see the 3rd most starts and the 4th highest TOI on the team? Thanks a lot kid but Connor doesn't need your companionship anymore so adios? You were only here last year because we had nowhere else to send ya? The kid'll probably accept his reassignment and try to make the most of it but not even having a legit chance to make the roster this year could linger too. To those who followed closer than me last year,would a 2nd consecutive NHL season have been a 'trainwreck' or 'potentially destructive' to the kid's development? Were his mistakes those of the average rookie D-man that become fewer with experience? Over-classed on a nightly basis? Too small to handle the league? If he was here for factors other than his play and if the answer to any of my other questions is yes..........then why in the hell was he utilized so heavily? I thought he was ok last year. But I feel that with all the signings, there really wasn’t much competition for roster spots. The kid gripped his stick too tight and it looked like his dream died. I feel for him. Even though it probably is best for him to go to the AHL, I hope they worded it really well with him. He didn’t ask to be on the team. They placed him on the team. Said he earned it. And now it sounds like they’re trashing him. It’s like the game plan was to put him in the farm all along. If this kid doesn’t pan out. You can clearly see the turning point and where they fucked up. Even the Oilers sent Draisaitl back to Jrs and he played 37 games. He came back the next year and got 19 goals and over 50 points. They coulda done the same with KK last year. Send him back after his dad died. Management could a went to his dads funeral. Stayed there for a few days and pull him aside and tell him it’s best to go back to Jrs. Then there wouldn’t be an expectation of making the team this year. And tell him go to Rockford and wow us. I think it would have been easier on him!!! I'm not just looking to criticize and other than marvel at Bedard with the rest of the fan-base,I've said next to nothing about any of the new FO's picks or prospects. I wouldn't go as far as they 'F'd the kid up' or they 'trashed' him,but insinuating he was here last year because he had to be isn't the biggest vote of confidence either. I'm also not sure what kind of message being such an early camp-casualty sends,but it does suggest he never had a shot to make a roster he made last year. Yeah,"all the signings" kept the years-long logjam in place at D again this year resulting in one spot to assess a handful of young D-men in need of assessment. You mentioned Kaiser,EDM and Allan in another post,now add KK and Levshunov to that group and tell me how in the hell we see 23 year olds Phillips and Crevier ever get another chance to be evaluated and assessed before decisions have to be made on them. It looks like Rockford could have its' own log-jam at D this year with most of the young D-men still being left-shot and with a few D-prospects not even seeing enough AHL game action for proper assessment. Maybe losing a guy like Mitchell who saw little assessment and Beaudin,who saw none at the big league level hasn't bitten the team in the ass and probably never will,and Boquist hasn't looked like a big loss either,but did we know what we had in Gustav Forsling before we gave-up on him. I won't pretend to have been an Eric Gustasson fan when he was here but he's been a very serviceable player for better teams since he was lost for nothing and Henri Jokiharju has been a reliable starting D-man averaging 191/2 minutes a game who was traded for a BUM.......@ TWENTY! |
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Post by mvr on Oct 5, 2024 10:28:01 GMT -6
Ian Mitchell was another Davidson casualty.
Mitchell was a very good prospect, a top contributor to a gold-medal winning Canadian Junior roster. His lack of development while with the organization was a black mark.
Interestingly, the other prospect Davidson gave away in the ill conceived Taylor Hall cap dump, 6'4" right shot Alex Regula, had a huge year in the AHL with Providence (a +36 rating with 26 points). Both Regula and Mitchell seem to be turning their games around.
I also consider the Kirby Dach debacle as another Davidson failure to develop. This team's big issue is not bad drafting so much as poor prospect development. Tanking for high picks does not improve team culture.
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Post by mvr on Oct 5, 2024 10:29:46 GMT -6
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Post by vadarx on Oct 5, 2024 10:31:25 GMT -6
I thought he was ok last year. But I feel that with all the signings, there really wasn’t much competition for roster spots. The kid gripped his stick too tight and it looked like his dream died. I feel for him. Even though it probably is best for him to go to the AHL, I hope they worded it really well with him. He didn’t ask to be on the team. They placed him on the team. Said he earned it. And now it sounds like they’re trashing him. It’s like the game plan was to put him in the farm all along. If this kid doesn’t pan out. You can clearly see the turning point and where they fucked up. Even the Oilers sent Draisaitl back to Jrs and he played 37 games. He came back the next year and got 19 goals and over 50 points. They coulda done the same with KK last year. Send him back after his dad died. Management could a went to his dads funeral. Stayed there for a few days and pull him aside and tell him it’s best to go back to Jrs. Then there wouldn’t be an expectation of making the team this year. And tell him go to Rockford and wow us. I think it would have been easier on him!!! I'm not just looking to criticize and other than marvel at Bedard with the rest of the fan-base,I've said next to nothing about any of the new FO's picks or prospects. I wouldn't go as far as they 'F'd the kid up' or they 'trashed' him,but insinuating he was here last year because he had to be isn't the biggest vote of confidence either. I'm also not sure what kind of message being such an early camp-casualty sends,but it does suggest he never had a shot to make a roster he made last year. Yeah,"all the signings" kept the years-long logjam in place at D again this year resulting in one spot to assess a handful of young D-men in need of assessment. You mentioned Kaiser,EDM and Allan in another post,now add KK and Levshunov to that group and tell me how in the hell we see 23 year olds Phillips and Crevier ever get another chance to be evaluated and assessed before decisions have to be made on them. It looks like Rockford could have its' own log-jam at D this year with most of the young D-men still being left-shot and with a few D-prospects not even seeing enough AHL game action for proper assessment. Maybe losing a guy like Mitchell who saw little assessment and Beaudin,who saw none at the big league level hasn't bitten the team in the ass and probably never will,and Boquist hasn't looked like a big loss either,but did we know what we had in Gustav Forsling before we gave-up on him. I won't pretend to have been an Eric Gustasson fan when he was here but he's been a very serviceable player for better teams since he was lost for nothing and Henri Jokiharju has been a reliable starting D-man averaging 191/2 minutes a game who was traded for a BUM.......@ TWENTY! thinking aloud here, I wonder a little if one reason he was sent down earlier was so that he could get acclimated with Rockford and the Hogs. a lot of the other guys getting sent down have already been there, so maybe getting him up there and used to the surroundings and routine before jumping right into the AHL season is a part of the reason? just spit ballin... as far as Crevier and Philips, those two likely will get chances in Chicago this season to show their wares. they almost have to if the brass want to see the "big 4" of Allan, EDM, Dewey, and KK get all the ice time in Rockford... |
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Post by vadarx on Oct 5, 2024 10:34:11 GMT -6
Ian Mitchell was another Davidson casualty. Mitchell was a very good prospect, a top contributor to a gold-medal winning Canadian Junior roster. His lack of development while with the organization was a black mark. Interestingly, the other prospect Davidson gave away in the ill conceived Taylor Hall cap dump, 6'4" right shot Alex Regula, had a huge year in the AHL with Providence (a +36 rating with 26 points). Both Regula and Mitchell seem to be turning their games around. I also consider the Kirby Dach debacle as another Davidson failure to develop. This team's big issue is not bad drafting so much as poor prospect development. Tanking for high picks does not improve team culture. development and culture should most certainly be THE things we are working on right now after doing a fair job at accumulating prospects. as of now, it seems like we have been doing a poor job with both. we have to hope the folks in charge see this and address it. |
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Post by hsbob on Oct 6, 2024 7:28:17 GMT -6
Ian Mitchell was another Davidson casualty. Mitchell was a very good prospect, a top contributor to a gold-medal winning Canadian Junior roster. His lack of development while with the organization was a black mark. Interestingly, the other prospect Davidson gave away in the ill conceived Taylor Hall cap dump, 6'4" right shot Alex Regula, had a huge year in the AHL with Providence (a +36 rating with 26 points). Both Regula and Mitchell seem to be turning their games around. I also consider the Kirby Dach debacle as another Davidson failure to develop. This team's big issue is not bad drafting so much as poor prospect development. Tanking for high picks does not improve team culture. The one thing I didn't understand back in the '22' camp was,the team was OVERTLY tanking after moving some very good players for picks only,yet they had no time for 1st round pick Beaudin and little more for high 2nd round Mitchell. Beaudin was among the earliest camp-causalities,I believe he saw one PS start. Why not give this kid the whole camp and a lotta PS action? Why not even have him on the opening night roster? They obviously didn't see the player as a future piece,so why not showcase him some? If he plays poorly,so what,he's a rook and you're doing your best to lose games anyway. BUT,if he plays better than expected,maybe some GM figures the 22yro just needs a change of scenery. Making him an early send-down on one of the league's biggest bottom-feeders was unnecessary and more than likely hurt any trade he did have. Mitchell on the other hand makes the team but sees 47 healthy scratches.......in favor of guys like Kalynuk and Stillman? His value was also at it's lowest when he was moved. 22yro Regula saw 4 starts that year for the tanking team after seeing 15 the year before.......what did not making one of the worst rosters in the league do for his value before he was moved? |
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Post by hsbob on Oct 6, 2024 7:36:28 GMT -6
I'm not just looking to criticize and other than marvel at Bedard with the rest of the fan-base,I've said next to nothing about any of the new FO's picks or prospects. I wouldn't go as far as they 'F'd the kid up' or they 'trashed' him,but insinuating he was here last year because he had to be isn't the biggest vote of confidence either. I'm also not sure what kind of message being such an early camp-casualty sends,but it does suggest he never had a shot to make a roster he made last year. Yeah,"all the signings" kept the years-long logjam in place at D again this year resulting in one spot to assess a handful of young D-men in need of assessment. You mentioned Kaiser,EDM and Allan in another post,now add KK and Levshunov to that group and tell me how in the hell we see 23 year olds Phillips and Crevier ever get another chance to be evaluated and assessed before decisions have to be made on them. It looks like Rockford could have its' own log-jam at D this year with most of the young D-men still being left-shot and with a few D-prospects not even seeing enough AHL game action for proper assessment. Maybe losing a guy like Mitchell who saw little assessment and Beaudin,who saw none at the big league level hasn't bitten the team in the ass and probably never will,and Boquist hasn't looked like a big loss either,but did we know what we had in Gustav Forsling before we gave-up on him. I won't pretend to have been an Eric Gustasson fan when he was here but he's been a very serviceable player for better teams since he was lost for nothing and Henri Jokiharju has been a reliable starting D-man averaging 191/2 minutes a game who was traded for a BUM.......@ TWENTY! thinking aloud here, I wonder a little if one reason he was sent down earlier was so that he could get acclimated with Rockford and the Hogs. a lot of the other guys getting sent down have already been there, so maybe getting him up there and used to the surroundings and routine before jumping right into the AHL season is a part of the reason? just spit ballin... as far as Crevier and Philips, those two likely will get chances in Chicago this season to show their wares. they almost have to if the brass want to see the "big 4" of Allan, EDM, Dewey, and KK get all the ice time in Rockford... There had to be some line of thinking that made him such an early send-down and yours is as good as any I guess. I just thought a 19yro who started as many games as any D-man on the team and had the 3rd highest TOI among D-men last year deserved a shot to make the team,but it seems his fate was predetermined and he knew it. The kid made 855K salary w/a 95K signing bonus last year and was due a 1M performance bonus and the same 95K bonus and 855K salary if he made this year's roster. I know he's still only 20 but ridin' buses and making only his 82.5K AHL salary is a stark difference. |
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Post by mvr on Oct 6, 2024 15:10:57 GMT -6
Izaak Phillips is on waivers today. I suspect he will clear, though he might not be heading to Rockford for awhile.
Unless something changes, this move signals that Nolan Allan starts with the big club, at least until Wyatt Kaiser is healthy. It also allows Davidson the option to pick up a player on the waiver wire. Some good options might materialize over the next 24 hours.
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Post by BigT on Oct 6, 2024 16:39:25 GMT -6
Izaak Phillips is on waivers today. I suspect he will clear, though he might not be heading to Rockford for awhile. Unless something changes, this move signals that Nolan Allan starts with the big club, at least until Wyatt Kaiser is healthy. It also allows Davidson the option to pick up a player on the waiver wire. Some good options might materialize over the next 24 hours. That’s good to know, thanks. I never knew what to make of Phillips. There’s a massive log jam at D and something has to give here. By the sounds of it, Allan has made the team and rightfully so. If you earn it you should get it!!! |
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Post by galaxytrash on Oct 6, 2024 18:13:41 GMT -6
Izaak Phillips is on waivers today. I suspect he will clear, though he might not be heading to Rockford for awhile. Unless something changes, this move signals that Nolan Allan starts with the big club, at least until Wyatt Kaiser is healthy. It also allows Davidson the option to pick up a player on the waiver wire. Some good options might materialize over the next 24 hours. maybe i'm over-valuing him, but i'd be very surprised phillips clears. edit: okay. seeing as he has to be placed on an nhl roster, maybe he does clear after all. the list: Boston Bruins: Patrick Brown, Brandon Bussi, Jiri Patera, Billy Sweezey, Patrick Viel Buffalo Sabres: James Reimer, Kale Clague, and Lukas Rousek Calgary Flames: Devin Cooley, Jakob Pelletier, Cole Schwindt Carolina Hurricanes: Ryan Suzuki, Josiah Slavin, Ty Smith Chicago Blackhawks: Isaak Phillips Detroit Red Wings: Sheldon Dries, Justin Holl, William Lagesson, Brogan Rafferty, Joe Snively Edmonton Oilers: Josh Brown, Drake Caggiula, Raphael Lavoie, Olivier Rodrigue Los Angeles Kings: Pheonix Copley, Samuel Fagemo, Jack Studnicka Nashville Predators: Marc Del Gaizo New Jersey Devils: Shane Bowers, Nick DeSimone, Nolan Foote, Colton White New York Islanders: Samuel Bolduc, Pierre Engvall, Hudson Fasching, Liam Foudy, Magnus Hogberg New York Rangers: Grant Hutton, Karlstrom, Skarak, Matthew Robertson Ottawa Senators: Adam Gaudette, Jan Jenik Pittsburgh Penguins: Sebastian Aho, Bokondji Imama St. Louis Blues: Corey Schueneman, Tyler Tucker Tampa Bay Lightning: Gage Goncalves, Steven Santini, Jesse Ylonen Toronto Maple Leafs Matt Murray, Marshall Rifai Utah Hockey Club: Matt Villalta Vancouver Canucks: Erik Brännström Vegas Golden Knights: Zach Aston-Reese, Tanner Laczynski, Jonas Rondbjerg Washington Capitals: Hunter Shepard Winnipeg Jets: Jaret Anderson-Dolan www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/pelletier-engvall-lavoie-murray-rifai-among-nhl-players-placed-on-waivers/ |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 6, 2024 18:51:51 GMT -6
Izaak Phillips is on waivers today. I suspect he will clear, though he might not be heading to Rockford for awhile. Unless something changes, this move signals that Nolan Allan starts with the big club, at least until Wyatt Kaiser is healthy. It also allows Davidson the option to pick up a player on the waiver wire. Some good options might materialize over the next 24 hours. maybe i'm over-valuing him, but i'd be very surprised phillips clears. edit: okay. seeing as he has to be placed on an nhl roster, maybe he does clear after all. the list: Boston Bruins: Patrick Brown, Brandon Bussi, Jiri Patera, Billy Sweezey, Patrick Viel Buffalo Sabres: James Reimer, Kale Clague, and Lukas Rousek Calgary Flames: Devin Cooley, Jakob Pelletier, Cole Schwindt Carolina Hurricanes: Ryan Suzuki, Josiah Slavin, Ty Smith Chicago Blackhawks: Isaak Phillips Detroit Red Wings: Sheldon Dries, Justin Holl, William Lagesson, Brogan Rafferty, Joe Snively Edmonton Oilers: Josh Brown, Drake Caggiula, Raphael Lavoie, Olivier Rodrigue Los Angeles Kings: Pheonix Copley, Samuel Fagemo, Jack Studnicka Nashville Predators: Marc Del Gaizo New Jersey Devils: Shane Bowers, Nick DeSimone, Nolan Foote, Colton White New York Islanders: Samuel Bolduc, Pierre Engvall, Hudson Fasching, Liam Foudy, Magnus Hogberg New York Rangers: Grant Hutton, Karlstrom, Skarak, Matthew Robertson Ottawa Senators: Adam Gaudette, Jan Jenik Pittsburgh Penguins: Sebastian Aho, Bokondji Imama St. Louis Blues: Corey Schueneman, Tyler Tucker Tampa Bay Lightning: Gage Goncalves, Steven Santini, Jesse Ylonen Toronto Maple Leafs Matt Murray, Marshall Rifai Utah Hockey Club: Matt Villalta Vancouver Canucks: Erik Brännström Vegas Golden Knights: Zach Aston-Reese, Tanner Laczynski, Jonas Rondbjerg Washington Capitals: Hunter Shepard Winnipeg Jets: Jaret Anderson-Dolan www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/pelletier-engvall-lavoie-murray-rifai-among-nhl-players-placed-on-waivers/I hope he clears, that's a good sign we're hoping a 5th rounder from 4yrs ago isn't claimed. But Allan making the team and forcing them to put Phillips on waivers is great because he actually earned a spot. He was a 1st rounder for a reason. I mentioned before that Allan looks like he's ahead of Del Mastro and now he's on the opening night roster. His 1g-1a against the Blows sure helped. Del Mastro had 2a and looked good too but Allan was better. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 6, 2024 18:52:54 GMT -6
Of that list KD should claim Lavoie from Edmonton, but they'd probably take Phillips if he falls to them.
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Post by mvr on Oct 6, 2024 18:57:08 GMT -6
Izaak Phillips is on waivers today. I suspect he will clear, though he might not be heading to Rockford for awhile. Unless something changes, this move signals that Nolan Allan starts with the big club, at least until Wyatt Kaiser is healthy. It also allows Davidson the option to pick up a player on the waiver wire. Some good options might materialize over the next 24 hours. That’s good to know, thanks. I never knew what to make of Phillips. There’s a massive log jam at D and something has to give here. By the sounds of it, Allan has made the team and rightfully so. If you earn it you should get it!!! Allan might be the closest to being ready. In this instance, however, it might be best for him (like the other higher end prospects) to be sheltered in Rockford where he can develop properly. The NHL game can expose a kid, especially if playing on a terrible roster. I don't want him damaged like Reichel and Korchinski were last year. This team is still not very good. Hopefully this promotion lasts a few games at most. If the coach needs fresh bodies, I'd rather waste Phillips this year and allow Allan and the others to grow their games properly far from the crossfire where they can develop their confidence. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 6, 2024 19:07:47 GMT -6
That’s good to know, thanks. I never knew what to make of Phillips. There’s a massive log jam at D and something has to give here. By the sounds of it, Allan has made the team and rightfully so. If you earn it you should get it!!! Allan might be the closest to being ready. In this instance, however, it might be best for him (like the other higher end prospects) to be sheltered in Rockford where he can develop properly. The NHL game can expose a kid, especially if playing on a terrible roster. I don't want him damaged like Reichel and Korchinski were last year. This team is still not very good. Hopefully this promotion lasts a few games at most. If the coach needs fresh bodies, I'd rather waste Phillips this year and allow Allan and the others to grow their games properly far from the crossfire where they can develop their confidence. He was developed properly, he played 2 season in the in CHL after his draft then a season in the AHL, typically it takes 3yrs for first rounders to make it. Plus he was a captain in juniors for a reason, then given an A when traded to Seattle to play with Korchinski and Dach. He's a very mature young man, physically and mentally. He's ready and doesn't need to be sheltered. |
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Post by BigT on Oct 6, 2024 19:12:46 GMT -6
That’s good to know, thanks. I never knew what to make of Phillips. There’s a massive log jam at D and something has to give here. By the sounds of it, Allan has made the team and rightfully so. If you earn it you should get it!!! Allan might be the closest to being ready. In this instance, however, it might be best for him (like the other higher end prospects) to be sheltered in Rockford where he can develop properly. The NHL game can expose a kid, especially if playing on a terrible roster. I don't want him damaged like Reichel and Korchinski were last year. This team is still not very good. Hopefully this promotion lasts a few games at most. If the coach needs fresh bodies, I'd rather waste Phillips this year and allow Allan and the others to grow their games properly far from the crossfire where they can develop their confidence. Or we could look at things a different way. At some point he’s gonna have to play at the NHL level to see what he’s got. The team just cannot bring up the whole Rockford team next year. The team will suck. I feel it’s best before the end of this season to bring up Allan, KK, and EDM. I’d also like to see Dach and Nazar up at various times this year. Maybe not forever. But they gotta get a handful of games. That’s what I’d like to see!!! |
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Post by mvr on Oct 6, 2024 19:20:17 GMT -6
Reichel was ready as well. Until he wasn't.
Playing on a terrible team with weak linemates can quickly destroy a kid. What is the rush here?
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Post by BigT on Oct 6, 2024 19:38:41 GMT -6
Reichel was ready as well. Until he wasn't. Playing on a terrible team with weak linemates can quickly destroy a kid. What is the rush here? There’s no rush. He earned it. It is also very detrimental to a kid to demote them when they clearly make it. No kid comes up and is at their potential. It takes time. It looks like Allan may be a Hammer type. So let him start out on the bottom pair and work his way into a spot. Next year, Martinez, Murphy will be gone. I think EDM becomes the 7th dman and KK will come with Levshunov!!! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 6, 2024 19:38:56 GMT -6
Reichel was ready as well. Until he wasn't. Playing on a terrible team with weak linemates can quickly destroy a kid. What is the rush here? There's no comparison between the two, Allan had NHL size when he was drafted and he's much stronger mentally. There is no rush, the team is better, on paper, and he earned a spot. |
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Post by BigT on Oct 6, 2024 19:42:44 GMT -6
I don’t know if anyone remembers the chat we had just after the free agent signings. TJ said he’d be with Vlasic. And at the time we all thought that was odd. I guess now we have our reason for that. KK was always going to the farm. They knew it from a long time ago!!!
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Post by mvr on Oct 7, 2024 6:10:20 GMT -6
If Allan is on the roster, he needs to play protected minutes every night with a quality veteran. So too does Wyatt Kaiser. These players still need to be developed steadily and carefully. They need to play consistently.
The coach has five veteran defencemen on the roster. If healthy, all will be in the lineup most nights. The seventh defenceman should be an experienced guy who won't be harmed by extensive time on the bench.
If Phillips is not the guy, who will be the cannon fodder? Who sits on a given night? Do we really think it's a good idea to jerk around a legit prospect?
Should the coaching staff commit to playing Allan and Kaiser every night, I am okay with this decision. But my guess is that guys like Murphy and Brodie will crowd them out. I would be much more comfortable stashing the legit prospects in Rockford and bringing them up as injury replacements when there is an opportunity.
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Post by nighbor on Oct 7, 2024 8:43:16 GMT -6
Likely part of what went into the decision to keep Korchinski with the big club last year was to help Bedard adjust to the NHL. There is a big difference between an 18-year-old kid and veterans of 23 or older. Young adults mature a great deal both physically but also emotionally in those few short years. Bedard knew few players when he came here. He and Korchinski were basically on their own. You do not want your star player to feel socially isolated or lonely. Now that Bedard has been in Chicago for a full year, this potentially destructive issue is less problematic. Bedard likely is okay; he has met some friends by now if not within the organization then outside. Korchinski is best served learning the pro game in the AHL. I do agree he’s better off in the AHL. But why not just send him back to Jrs after his father died? That would have been better for him to be closer to home. Ask his Jr team to not trade him as he’s been through the ringer. Let him finish out and let him start this year in the AHL. I think that would have been a much better plan. Now the kid probably feels like he failed. Like, how could he survive a year at 19 in the national and not at 20? It’s a good way to ruin kids. Hopefully he has a solid year in the jungle and rebounds nicely. Or gets called up halfway through and never looks back!!! Chicago and KK don't want him to survive they want him to thrive. He knows what he has to improve and because many rookie mistakes are caused by the speed of the game it will be easier to correct these mistakes by playing at a slower pace and work on his reaction time. |
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Post by LordKOTL on Oct 7, 2024 9:11:00 GMT -6
I do agree he’s better off in the AHL. But why not just send him back to Jrs after his father died? That would have been better for him to be closer to home. Ask his Jr team to not trade him as he’s been through the ringer. Let him finish out and let him start this year in the AHL. I think that would have been a much better plan. Now the kid probably feels like he failed. Like, how could he survive a year at 19 in the national and not at 20? It’s a good way to ruin kids. Hopefully he has a solid year in the jungle and rebounds nicely. Or gets called up halfway through and never looks back!!! Chicago and KK don't want him to survive they want him to thrive. He knows what he has to improve and because many rookie mistakes are caused by the speed of the game it will be easier to correct these mistakes by playing at a slower pace and work on his reaction time. That's what I am hoping for. |
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Post by tincup on Oct 7, 2024 21:15:59 GMT -6
Of that list KD should claim Lavoie from Edmonton, but they'd probably take Phillips if he falls to them. . Looks like Vegas claimed Lavoie. Kept Noah Philp up instead, two years older and a guy who took last year off. Seems a Bowman type move. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 7, 2024 21:34:51 GMT -6
Of that list KD should claim Lavoie from Edmonton, but they'd probably take Phillips if he falls to them. . Looks like Vegas claimed Lavoie. Kept Noah Philp up instead, two years older and a guy who took last year off. Seems a Bowman type move. Definitely sounds like a Bowman move, kept the older, smaller, less productive player. Philip isn't that much smaller but like you said, he didn't play last year and he's 2yrs older. And only had 37pts in the AHL the season before. Lavoie had 50pts in the AHL last season. |
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