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Post by BigT on Oct 7, 2020 19:57:44 GMT -6
[quote author=" BigT" source="/post/19523/thread" timestamp="1602110768" Bigger guys do take longer!!![/quote] this is not what she said.....[/quote] Hahahahaha. Ba dum ting!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Oct 7, 2020 20:02:05 GMT -6
[quote author=" BigT" source="/post/19523/thread" timestamp="1602110768" Bigger guys do take longer!!! this is not what she said.....[/quote] Hahahahaha. Ba dum ting!!![/quote] 😅 |
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Post by vadarx on Oct 7, 2020 20:18:22 GMT -6
I don't mind the draft this year. For the first time I can recall during the Bowman era, forward draft picks have come with reputations as good board battlers/forecheckers. The team has added some size on the back-end (especially picks five, six and eight). The goaltender has a legitimate chance to be a future starter. There were no wasted picks on undersized Euro or US college polly-annas. All eight picks make sense. to be honest, i don't hate most of our picks, either. it just seemed like a fair amount of them could've been had later and we could've move down a time or two and added an extra pick or two. i could've done without another domer, too, but whatevs.... at least Jackson will learn him some defensive play, i suppose. I liked our second pick in the third round, though. seemed like the first 4 rounds were guys at the younger end of the spectrum and then the later picks were guys that were older. |
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Post by BigT on Oct 7, 2020 20:19:16 GMT -6
I heard “physical play” so many times I thought I was watching a Vegas prospect!!! only 18 minutes in penalties in 105 games in the "Q". hopefully he's one of them fellers that can hit a lot and still stay out of the box. pretty amazing a guy of his age and stature falls down to the last round. he's going to be a fun project to watch. One thing I’ll say about Jr hockey is this. David Branch took any bit of toughness out of the game. On one hand I agree with him that he wants to ensure parents that their child is safe. But on the other hand these parents and kids have to realize that their child has an opportunity that very few have. And they need to protect themselves from hits. When Curtis Douglas came to the Spitfires (the big kid in my avatar with my son), he was hitting everything in sight and he fought about 6-7 times in 25 games. He’s 6’9” 236. It was a very unfair advantage he has. Now, in the last 2 years, he barely hits, never fights and just tries to play a normal game now. A street over a buddy Pat billets him. He’s a great kid and all, but when I talk to him I ask him why don’t you just destroy everyone? He said that he was taking too many penalties and he was threatened with suspensions etc, so he’s changed his ways I guess. The league has become soft, and if this Crevier kid is physical, that’s great to hear. I’ve just heard of too many kids doing a 180 and look like they’ve given up. If Branch really wanted to clean up the league, he’d look closer into the hazing and or stupid ritualistic things that go on. Instead of taking the venom outta the viper!!! |
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Post by acesandeights on Oct 7, 2020 20:19:41 GMT -6
Didn’t think they’d pick a goalie this early. Second ranked N.A. goalie. I think this is why. This is from the Suntimes. "Hawks scouting director Mark Kelley said the Hawks were “very, very concerned” that Commesso might be taken before 46th and was relieved he wasn’t." |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 21:07:01 GMT -6
Blackhawks just drafted a D-Man in the 7th round who is listed at 6-foot-7 and 212 pounds 1) finally some size (though 7th rounder so longshot to ever make NHL) 2) I didn't know that height and weight combo was actually possible, he must be a literal toothpick PS yes, Happy Birthday Guy is huge. That one on one drill makes him look like Gandalf and Bilbo are on the ice together. "His only down side is his slow feet and poor agility" which of course is what you want in a game that is getting faster and faster I almost feel like this pick was a purposeful middle finger to everyone saying they are too small and need more size obviously there is a big difference between the sub-6 foot players they repeatedly take and a 6-foot-8 guy who can't skate... stan has a good 8-10 inches to play with he could certainly find players with size who can also skate but just refuses to look at them |
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Post by vadarx on Oct 7, 2020 21:11:09 GMT -6
Didn’t think they’d pick a goalie this early. Second ranked N.A. goalie. I think this is why. This is from the Suntimes. "Hawks scouting director Mark Kelley said the Hawks were “very, very concerned” that Commesso might be taken before 46th and was relieved he wasn’t." I just hurt my brain rolling my eyes too hard...... give me a break. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Oct 7, 2020 23:10:44 GMT -6
interesting little nugget.
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Post by Tater on Oct 7, 2020 23:53:53 GMT -6
interesting little nugget. I'm surprised the % is so high. Never would have guessed those numbers. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Oct 8, 2020 0:02:53 GMT -6
interesting little nugget. I'm surprised the % is so high. Never would have guessed those numbers. i would think that'd include a lot of european FAs and the like. edit: it does seem high though. they guy who tweeted it is MAF's agent so he should have some idea about this. |
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Post by jaty84 on Oct 8, 2020 1:40:21 GMT -6
I'm surprised the % is so high. Never would have guessed those numbers. i would think that'd include a lot of european FAs and the like. edit: it does seem high though. they guy who tweeted it is MAF's agent so he should have some idea about this. I'm actually surprised about the opposite. The percentage of players drafted in the 1st round. My sensation was that even in the 1st round, it's more often a miss than jackpot. When you do a quick math, we have 31 teams with let's say 30 players seeing ice during a season. That gives us 930 players. Out of that, 1st rounders represent 393, the rest 539. To me, the ratio between the two is pretty slim. When you compare that within a draft, you're having 217 players selected, out of that during the first round 31. So the ration is 1 to 7. This pretty much even more gives a focus on keeping the 1st round picks and consequently proper selection. Basically out of this draft, statistically we more or less have to focus purely on Reichel. The rest, maybe 1-2 of them might have a chance... |
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Post by BigT on Oct 8, 2020 5:50:32 GMT -6
i would think that'd include a lot of european FAs and the like. edit: it does seem high though. they guy who tweeted it is MAF's agent so he should have some idea about this. I'm actually surprised about the opposite. The percentage of players drafted in the 1st round. My sensation was that even in the 1st round, it's more often a miss than jackpot. When you do a quick math, we have 31 teams with let's say 30 players seeing ice during a season. That gives us 930 players. Out of that, 1st rounders represent 393, the rest 539. To me, the ratio between the two is pretty slim. When you compare that within a draft, you're having 217 players selected, out of that during the first round 31. So the ration is 1 to 7. This pretty much even more gives a focus on keeping the 1st round picks and consequently proper selection. Basically out of this draft, statistically we more or less have to focus purely on Reichel. The rest, maybe 1-2 of them might have a chance... Ive always used numbers similar to this for my argument on drafting. So basically, 3 guys on your team are undrafted. Which seems right to me. Also, trading down is ok, but as we see, the odds get worse and worse in your favour the more you go back. I get the logic of trading pick 22 for picks 24 and 80. Especially if you know the kid you want is there at 24. Not gonna hurt anything. And a good GM should take advantage of these moves. However we can’t go relying on later round picks as it just doesn’t pan out very often. So the best course of action is to load up on 1st rounders. At this point, I think this Hawks team will get worse, than they’ll see a bit of a surge in a year or two, then once Toews and Kane start to wind down in 2 years from now, I think the team will take a massive step back. Older players don’t usually play 82 games either. So I think we’re in some massive trouble going forward. Unless some of these draft picks seriously pan out!!! |
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Post by squishy24 on Oct 8, 2020 7:04:32 GMT -6
interesting little nugget. Maybe undrafted guys get more drive and get an extra chip on their shoulder to perform more and better themselves as a player. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Oct 8, 2020 7:13:50 GMT -6
interesting little nugget. Maybe undrafted guys get more drive and get an extra chip on their shoulder to perform more and better themselves as a player. good point. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Oct 8, 2020 8:27:44 GMT -6
not agreeing, disagreeing.
just throwing this out there.
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Post by acesandeights on Oct 8, 2020 9:09:44 GMT -6
I've been reading some about the fourth rounder Michael Krutil and he seems like he could be a useful d-man in the future, if he develops. With one exception, I've read he's 6'3, a bit over 200lbs. and is a good skater and a good defensive d-man that will use the body. It was said he's a good passer but isn't much on offense and has had injury problems the last couple of years. I also read Kelowna in the WHL selected him in their import draft. I don't know how often Euro's come over to play in Canadian juniors.
When you look at the shots allowed stats, I would think the D could use someone like that; maybe in a middle pairing.
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Post by gigecj on Oct 8, 2020 9:27:25 GMT -6
Happy birthday Gig! I've got my 60th coming up in 5 weeks and I know what you mean. I've never felt my age before now. Thanks Phil. Yeah, I have to invest in a treadmill or something. |
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Post by hsbob on Oct 8, 2020 10:10:05 GMT -6
Happy birthday Gig! I've got my 60th coming up in 5 weeks and I know what you mean. I've never felt my age before now. Thanks Phil. Yeah, I have to invest in a treadmill or something. Belated Happy Birthday my friend! |
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Post by hawkfaninpdx on Oct 8, 2020 11:00:15 GMT -6
The undrafted players stat is quite misleading. There are probably thousands of potential draftees that are not drafted, and maybe 0.1%, or less, make it to the NHL. Compare that to 4.2% of round 7 draftees that make it.
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Post by hawks27 on Oct 8, 2020 11:11:45 GMT -6
You know what I believe Gig? I believe it’s your BIRTHDAY! Happy bday to you. I hope there’s never ever another draft on your special day and we get things back to normal!!! Yes, it is my 61st today. A year ago, I felt 50. Now, because of sitting around as much as many of us have had to do this year, I feel about my age! Thank you very much again (I loved your Facebook entry) Big T. Gig As a retired former educator and coach, may I send you wishes for a wonderful birthday filled with lots of laughter and good health. I've made to 73, just waiting for early December to take another step forward on the "time line chart." Keep active and enjoy every day! |
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Post by gigecj on Oct 8, 2020 14:35:51 GMT -6
Thanks Phil. Yeah, I have to invest in a treadmill or something. Belated Happy Birthday my friend! Thank you Bob! |
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Post by gigecj on Oct 8, 2020 14:37:04 GMT -6
Yes, it is my 61st today. A year ago, I felt 50. Now, because of sitting around as much as many of us have had to do this year, I feel about my age! Thank you very much again (I loved your Facebook entry) Big T. Gig As a retired former educator and coach, may I send you wishes for a wonderful birthday filled with lots of laughter and good health. I've made to 73, just waiting for early December to take another step forward on the "time line chart." Keep active and enjoy every day! Good advice! Thank you! Gig |
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Post by galaxytrash on Oct 8, 2020 17:15:01 GMT -6
Happy birthday Gig! I've got my 60th coming up in 5 weeks and I know what you mean. I've never felt my age before now. Thanks Phil. Yeah, I have to invest in a treadmill or something. I bought one a couple years ago and i gotta' say it's the best clothes rack i've ever owned. Happy BD. |
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Post by BigT on Oct 8, 2020 17:53:39 GMT -6
Happy birthday Gig! I've got my 60th coming up in 5 weeks and I know what you mean. I've never felt my age before now. Thanks Phil. Yeah, I have to invest in a treadmill or something. Nahhhh, just invest in steroids and orange spray tan. Apparently you’ll be an “impeccable physical specimen”. Hahahaha. I thought that would be good for a laugh through this tough day!!! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Oct 8, 2020 19:15:58 GMT -6
Blackhawks just drafted a D-Man in the 7th round who is listed at 6-foot-7 and 212 pounds 1) finally some size (though 7th rounder so longshot to ever make NHL) 2) I didn't know that height and weight combo was actually possible, he must be a literal toothpick PS yes, Happy Birthday Guy is huge. That one on one drill makes him look like Gandalf and Bilbo are on the ice together. I've watched a few prospect reviews by this guy and I don't agree with his assessment most of the time and the video shows that his skating isn't a big issue, he's much better than Chara at 19. Plus 10 goals by a huge stay at home dman is pretty good. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Oct 9, 2020 12:19:17 GMT -6
Other than game changing first round picks, I pay very little attention to the draft. This is not because I don't think it is important. It is because I don't know enough about the draftees and how they turn out is such a hit and miss proposition that I just don't want to spend my time on it.
But, having said that, I know that a lot of you like to follow it all. So, my question to you all is there any one of you who really, really, really believes that this draft will make the Hawks relevant in the next year, two or three. Or, is this team most likely simply doomed to wallow between being a bad playoff team or simply a bad team? I just don't see them having the talent to match up with what I saw of the top notch teams this year at any point in the near future. But, since I don't know very much, I'll rely on the rest of you for better insight than I have.
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Post by tincup on Oct 9, 2020 14:11:36 GMT -6
Guy is huge. That one on one drill makes him look like Gandalf and Bilbo are on the ice together. I've watched a few prospect reviews by this guy and I don't agree with his assessment most of the time and the video shows that his skating isn't a big issue, he's much better than Chara at 19. Plus 10 goals by a huge stay at home dman is pretty good. He’s not a gazelle but if his reach and big body can effectively defend, so what? I’ve seen some fairly wonky skaters succeed if their head is built for the game, and the minors are filled with great skaters who never got it. He’ll be fun to watch and pull for. |
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Post by tincup on Oct 9, 2020 16:03:47 GMT -6
that's not really you is it? sorry about the accident. : D : D just kidding. but seriously...there's been a quick offline poll here begging you to put the pink mask back on. seriously! HAHA! I was just thinking if that’s really OTH up there he’s far more deserving of my avatar than me, spitting image. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Oct 9, 2020 16:16:43 GMT -6
that's not really you is it? sorry about the accident. : D : D just kidding. but seriously...there's been a quick offline poll here begging you to put the pink mask back on. seriously! HAHA! I was just thinking if that’s really OTH up there he’s far more deserving of my avatar than me, spitting image. haha....no kidding! |
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Post by acesandeights on Oct 12, 2020 9:28:42 GMT -6
Guy is huge. That one on one drill makes him look like Gandalf and Bilbo are on the ice together. I've watched a few prospect reviews by this guy and I don't agree with his assessment most of the time and the video shows that his skating isn't a big issue, he's much better than Chara at 19. Plus 10 goals by a huge stay at home dman is pretty good. Can you imagine in early training camp seeing Crevier paired with Zadorov, and behind them Basse in net.  |
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