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Post by BigT on Apr 12, 2022 17:05:46 GMT -6
Thanks for the imput guys. Never thought about Lucas getting more money being up but he also gets a taste of that pay for 9 games has same effect. To me they save a little money if he has one good year and one bad year thats about about it. In 3 years he will be making 4 mil a year if he plays good. If you slide in 3 years he is making a 1 mil. That 3 mil in cap space could be used to get more assets. As far as Lucas the player I agree with MVR he still needs some work I would also keep him down most of next year let colton ride on his wing. From peeps I know that have watched him(5 game sample) said he could get better on D but it has improved since begging of year and his board work could use some work. Thanks for the different points of view I am not as scared. Sure he needs work. But the question is simply can he get that in the NHL? Not every kid needs 2-3 years of farm work. A lot don’t need any. Look at Shaw, he got 38 games in the farm. Then came up and was never sent down again. He played in the Always Hungry League one more time during the lockout in 2012-13. Then won a Cup with the Hawks that year. He didn’t need much seasoning. Saad the same thing. The AHL is not that far off of the NHL. You’ll see better passes and a bit more skill. But it’s not like the AHL is slow and unskilled. It’s the 2nd best league in the world. Even the KHL is just a watered down beer league full of AHLers and washed up NHLers. I’m sure after playing in the mens league in Germany, and now the AHL, especially looking really good in the AHL, he deserves a shot. There’s also the side most here have to look at. If you work your ass off you should get promoted or paid or what not. I don’t think this will be detrimental to the kid. There is no hurry, he’s looked ready. You cannot punish him by leaving him down there to make next to nothing. Usually On a 2 way deal they get 10% of their NHL contract. Which would be roughly 87,500$ this year for him. He could make pretty much that in the 3 weeks he’s up with the Hawks. NHL season roughly 30 weeks. 3 weeks is 10% of the NHL season. So it gives him a chance to make a few bucks. He’ll need money to train and hire all the right people in the summer. So it’s not all about some record in Rockford, or his development curve. It’s about what’s right for him!!! |
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Post by vadarx on Apr 15, 2022 23:31:03 GMT -6
so, as of tonight it appears that Reichel will play tomorrow in Nashville and burn the first year of his elc...
as I said in the last gameday thread, we now have demonstrable evidence of KD being just as full of shit as Bowman. fun times.
wtf happened to his "we have to let guys develop" and "some of the guys we've had have been rushed" talk? his bullshit excuse for burning a elc year is the EXACT same thing Bowman said about Dach...
Reichel has never played in NA before this year. he should've never left Rockford this season. next year give him some games in Chicago. then bring him up for the 23-24 season full time.
but, nah, let's just rush another first round pick instead. It’s not like he has 0 goddamn points in his 9 games so far, playing in the top 6 on a few occasions..
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Post by bigbarn27 on Apr 16, 2022 9:06:12 GMT -6
Meet the new boss same as the old boss. Good grief
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Post by steamer on Apr 16, 2022 9:58:34 GMT -6
Trying to have patience with the “new regime” but I agree about Reichel. He’s had his time up here and time to go back and lead the Hogs in the playoffs.
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Post by hsbob on Apr 16, 2022 10:00:25 GMT -6
so, as of tonight it appears that Reichel will play tomorrow in Nashville and burn the first year of his elc... as I said in the last gameday thread, we now have demonstrable evidence of KD being just as full of shit as Bowman. fun times. wtf happened to his "we have to let guys develop" and "some of the guys we've had have been rushed" talk? his bullshit excuse for burning a elc year is the EXACT same thing Bowman said about Dach... Reichel has never played in NA before this year. he should've never left Rockford this season. next year give him some games in Chicago. then bring him up for the 23-24 season full time. but, nah, let's just rush another first round pick instead. It’s not like he has 0 goddamn points in his 9 games so far, playing in the top 6 on a few occasions.. I ain't had much to say about this,I've either been on the fence or too busy complaining about everything else,I actually have more questions than opinions since I haven't paid the Hogs a lotta attention. Does the burning of a year really not mean all that much financially? Cap space shouldn't be a problem in a few years? More importantly IMO,is he better off,leading a successful line if not the whole team to some valuable AHL PO experience on a team that appears fairly cohesive or will the NHL experience even if uneventful(for lack of a better term) on a less cohesive team be more valuable? Wich staff helps him more? |
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Post by BigT on Apr 16, 2022 10:53:15 GMT -6
so, as of tonight it appears that Reichel will play tomorrow in Nashville and burn the first year of his elc... as I said in the last gameday thread, we now have demonstrable evidence of KD being just as full of shit as Bowman. fun times. wtf happened to his "we have to let guys develop" and "some of the guys we've had have been rushed" talk? his bullshit excuse for burning a elc year is the EXACT same thing Bowman said about Dach... Reichel has never played in NA before this year. he should've never left Rockford this season. next year give him some games in Chicago. then bring him up for the 23-24 season full time. but, nah, let's just rush another first round pick instead. It’s not like he has 0 goddamn points in his 9 games so far, playing in the top 6 on a few occasions.. I ain't had much to say about this,I've either been on the fence or too busy complaining about everything else,I actually have more questions than opinions since I haven't paid the Hogs a lotta attention. Does the burning of a year really not mean all that much financially? Cap space shouldn't be a problem in a few years? More importantly IMO,is he better off,leading a successful line if not the whole team to some valuable AHL PO experience on a team that appears fairly cohesive or will the NHL experience even if uneventful(for lack of a better term) on a less cohesive team be more valuable? Wich staff helps him more? Those are the important questions. I have a few of my own. Apparently Scambo promised him nhl playing time like he did everyone else it seemed. So, I’d like to see his contract, I’d bet he gets a bonus if he plays his 10 games or whatnot. I wonder if that’s the case? It may not be about his development, and more about past promises? However, the old guard is gone. Let’s hope this new one is much more knowledgeable, or did they just cheap out and keep KD cuz he more than likely makes 1/3 what a real GM makes. Plus without hiring a president, they’re also saving massive amounts of money!!! |
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Post by nighbor on Apr 16, 2022 12:00:21 GMT -6
I ain't had much to say about this,I've either been on the fence or too busy complaining about everything else,I actually have more questions than opinions since I haven't paid the Hogs a lotta attention. Does the burning of a year really not mean all that much financially? Cap space shouldn't be a problem in a few years? More importantly IMO,is he better off,leading a successful line if not the whole team to some valuable AHL PO experience on a team that appears fairly cohesive or will the NHL experience even if uneventful(for lack of a better term) on a less cohesive team be more valuable? Wich staff helps him more? Those are the important questions. I have a few of my own. Apparently Scambo promised him nhl playing time like he did everyone else it seemed. So, I’d like to see his contract, I’d bet he gets a bonus if he plays his 10 games or whatnot. I wonder if that’s the case? It may not be about his development, and more about past promises? However, the old guard is gone. Let’s hope this new one is much more knowledgeable, or did they just cheap out and keep KD cuz he more than likely makes 1/3 what a real GM makes. Plus without hiring a president, they’re also saving massive amounts of money!!! Maybe the thinking is that playing in the faster paced NHL will benefit him more when he returns for the AHL playoffs. Since you seem fixated on money it could be that he needs the extra cash. |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Apr 16, 2022 15:37:45 GMT -6
Big T and nighbor you both bring up very good points!
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Post by squishy24 on Apr 16, 2022 16:33:11 GMT -6
LOL too many conspiracy theory, smh. Here's a more plausible explanation;
"Roumeliotis suggests that burning the first year this season may actually be more beneficial to the Blackhawks from a longer-term planning perspective. When he’s up for a new deal in the 2024 offseason, he’ll only have at most two full NHL seasons under his belt which should keep the AAV lower, giving Chicago a bit more short-term cap flexibility. Chicago will have some pricey contracts expiring by then – particularly those of Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane at $10.5MM each – but having a core piece on a cheaper second deal certainly can’t hurt.
It’s worth noting that Chicago will not lose a year of team control by doing this. In order to receive a year of service time, Reichel would have needed to have gotten to 40 games on the active roster and that’s clearly not going to happen with the Blackhawks already mathematically eliminated from playoff contention. As a result of this, Reichel will need his second contract a year sooner but Chicago will still have seven years of team control remaining."
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Post by vadarx on Apr 16, 2022 18:20:01 GMT -6
LOL too many conspiracy theory, smh. Here's a more plausible explanation; "Roumeliotis suggests that burning the first year this season may actually be more beneficial to the Blackhawks from a longer-term planning perspective. When he’s up for a new deal in the 2024 offseason, he’ll only have at most two full NHL seasons under his belt which should keep the AAV lower, giving Chicago a bit more short-term cap flexibility. Chicago will have some pricey contracts expiring by then – particularly those of Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane at $10.5MM each – but having a core piece on a cheaper second deal certainly can’t hurt. It’s worth noting that Chicago will not lose a year of team control by doing this. In order to receive a year of service time, Reichel would have needed to have gotten to 40 games on the active roster and that’s clearly not going to happen with the Blackhawks already mathematically eliminated from playoff contention. As a result of this, Reichel will need his second contract a year sooner but Chicago will still have seven years of team control remaining." I already posted that weeks ago and so did someone else more recently. it is a bullshit reason. they should be more concerned about development right now, not goddamn cap space... |
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Post by bigbarn27 on Apr 16, 2022 18:49:48 GMT -6
LOL too many conspiracy theory, smh. Here's a more plausible explanation; "Roumeliotis suggests that burning the first year this season may actually be more beneficial to the Blackhawks from a longer-term planning perspective. When he’s up for a new deal in the 2024 offseason, he’ll only have at most two full NHL seasons under his belt which should keep the AAV lower, giving Chicago a bit more short-term cap flexibility. Chicago will have some pricey contracts expiring by then – particularly those of Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane at $10.5MM each – but having a core piece on a cheaper second deal certainly can’t hurt. It’s worth noting that Chicago will not lose a year of team control by doing this. In order to receive a year of service time, Reichel would have needed to have gotten to 40 games on the active roster and that’s clearly not going to happen with the Blackhawks already mathematically eliminated from playoff contention. As a result of this, Reichel will need his second contract a year sooner but Chicago will still have seven years of team control remaining." Squishy I just assumed he would be a UFA a year earlier. I still dont like it for reasons I have already stated but that nugget makes me dislike it a little less. |
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Post by Nikos on Apr 16, 2022 21:04:44 GMT -6
I ain't had much to say about this,I've either been on the fence or too busy complaining about everything else,I actually have more questions than opinions since I haven't paid the Hogs a lotta attention. Does the burning of a year really not mean all that much financially? Cap space shouldn't be a problem in a few years? More importantly IMO,is he better off,leading a successful line if not the whole team to some valuable AHL PO experience on a team that appears fairly cohesive or will the NHL experience even if uneventful(for lack of a better term) on a less cohesive team be more valuable? Wich staff helps him more? Those are the important questions. I have a few of my own. Apparently Scambo promised him nhl playing time like he did everyone else it seemed. So, I’d like to see his contract, I’d bet he gets a bonus if he plays his 10 games or whatnot. I wonder if that’s the case? It may not be about his development, and more about past promises? However, the old guard is gone. Let’s hope this new one is much more knowledgeable, or did they just cheap out and keep KD cuz he more than likely makes 1/3 what a real GM makes. Plus without hiring a president, they’re also saving massive amounts of money!!! Big T could right that he was promised some type of bonus if he plays 10 or more games. I also agree with Vadarx that they should be concerned with development than cap space. Once Hawks season is over he will go back to the AHL, Just more head scratching decisions. |
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Post by squishy24 on Apr 16, 2022 21:40:43 GMT -6
LOL too many conspiracy theory, smh. Here's a more plausible explanation; "Roumeliotis suggests that burning the first year this season may actually be more beneficial to the Blackhawks from a longer-term planning perspective. When he’s up for a new deal in the 2024 offseason, he’ll only have at most two full NHL seasons under his belt which should keep the AAV lower, giving Chicago a bit more short-term cap flexibility. Chicago will have some pricey contracts expiring by then – particularly those of Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane at $10.5MM each – but having a core piece on a cheaper second deal certainly can’t hurt. It’s worth noting that Chicago will not lose a year of team control by doing this. In order to receive a year of service time, Reichel would have needed to have gotten to 40 games on the active roster and that’s clearly not going to happen with the Blackhawks already mathematically eliminated from playoff contention. As a result of this, Reichel will need his second contract a year sooner but Chicago will still have seven years of team control remaining." Squishy I just assumed he would be a UFA a year earlier. I still dont like it for reasons I have already stated but that nugget makes me dislike it a little less. The last sentence says they have the same year of RFA/UFA so burning the first year os ELC doesnt matter. All it does is, it gives Reichel 2 yrs to prove his worth for the next contract instead of 3 yrs. imagine for example, he becomes a 20g-50pts player every season, then you can re-sign him for cheaper at the next contract. 3 yrs of 20-50 is more expensive re-sign than 2 yrs of 20-50. And of course there are negatives on giving him 2 yr “tryout” as well. I didnt even know that there is a 40 game before losing a yr of RFA, but we live and learn |
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Post by squishy24 on Apr 16, 2022 21:42:48 GMT -6
LOL too many conspiracy theory, smh. Here's a more plausible explanation; "Roumeliotis suggests that burning the first year this season may actually be more beneficial to the Blackhawks from a longer-term planning perspective. When he’s up for a new deal in the 2024 offseason, he’ll only have at most two full NHL seasons under his belt which should keep the AAV lower, giving Chicago a bit more short-term cap flexibility. Chicago will have some pricey contracts expiring by then – particularly those of Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane at $10.5MM each – but having a core piece on a cheaper second deal certainly can’t hurt. It’s worth noting that Chicago will not lose a year of team control by doing this. In order to receive a year of service time, Reichel would have needed to have gotten to 40 games on the active roster and that’s clearly not going to happen with the Blackhawks already mathematically eliminated from playoff contention. As a result of this, Reichel will need his second contract a year sooner but Chicago will still have seven years of team control remaining." I already posted that weeks ago and so did someone else more recently. it is a bullshit reason. they should be more concerned about development right now, not goddamn cap space... As i stated above, it doesnt really matter the capspace or burning his ELC a yr early, they hold his rights 7 yrs regardless. At least thats what im reading? Am i interpreting that wrong? |
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Post by BigT on Apr 16, 2022 22:06:37 GMT -6
Those are the important questions. I have a few of my own. Apparently Scambo promised him nhl playing time like he did everyone else it seemed. So, I’d like to see his contract, I’d bet he gets a bonus if he plays his 10 games or whatnot. I wonder if that’s the case? It may not be about his development, and more about past promises? However, the old guard is gone. Let’s hope this new one is much more knowledgeable, or did they just cheap out and keep KD cuz he more than likely makes 1/3 what a real GM makes. Plus without hiring a president, they’re also saving massive amounts of money!!! Big T could right that he was promised some type of bonus if he plays 10 or more games. I also agree with Vadarx that they should be concerned with development than cap space. Once Hawks season is over he will go back to the AHL, Just more head scratching decisions. I’d have to think that there’s much more here than meets the eye. No real reason to bring him up to struggle after he had a point per game in the AHL. Other things to consider are a 19 year old living with someone new….. again. In a new country. So I believe the rumours are true that he was promised he’d see a certain amount of time this year. Or they promised him they wouldn’t prolong his ELC so they’d purposely “burn a year”. If the team was going a bit better, I’d really think they’d be doing a good thing. However they’re 1-9 lately and that just doesn’t do much for the kid. Let’s just hope he goes back and has a solid playoffs. That would be great to hear for once!!! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Apr 20, 2022 17:34:54 GMT -6
Big T could right that he was promised some type of bonus if he plays 10 or more games. I also agree with Vadarx that they should be concerned with development than cap space. Once Hawks season is over he will go back to the AHL, Just more head scratching decisions. I’d have to think that there’s much more here than meets the eye. No real reason to bring him up to struggle after he had a point per game in the AHL. Other things to consider are a 19 year old living with someone new….. again. In a new country. So I believe the rumours are true that he was promised he’d see a certain amount of time this year. Or they promised him they wouldn’t prolong his ELC so they’d purposely “burn a year”. If the team was going a bit better, I’d really think they’d be doing a good thing. However they’re 1-9 lately and that just doesn’t do much for the kid. Let’s just hope he goes back and has a solid playoffs. That would be great to hear for once!!! I'm sure he had bonuses and promises, that's not on KD but I think him and Maciver did the right thing. Plus they did it when Hoss and lots of legends were around so he got to meet them then they sent him back with 7gms to go. Time will tell if Davidson is better with contracts than the last guy, so far his trades are better. I mentioned before that if Stan traded Hagel he probably would've asked for Raddysh and a 2nd rounder. Also he convinced Guerin to put up his 1st rounder, albeit long shot, when Bill said he wasn't trading it. |
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Post by Nikos on May 20, 2022 15:35:09 GMT -6
Sounds like KD is not really interested in taking back bad contracts. Wonder if that will change if he really strips this team down with no 19, 88 & the Cat.
Flexibility is a really important aspect of us moving forward," GM Kyle Davidson said. "I don't want to go out and take on a quote-unquote 'bad contract' if it puts us in a tough spot just because we get an asset. I think we have to be very smart and understanding what that could do to us moving forward.
"We don't want to be put in a corner, because cap space goes so quickly and it's so hard to get that flexibility back. I don't want to give that up if it's not the right situation, and so we'll be mindful of that and react accordingly based on the different situations that are presented to us. But from my perspective, I would like to have a little bit of flexibility."
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Post by BigT on May 20, 2022 15:56:10 GMT -6
Sounds like KD is not really interested in taking back bad contracts. Wonder if that will change if he really strips this team down with no 19, 88 & the Cat. Flexibility is a really important aspect of us moving forward," GM Kyle Davidson said. "I don't want to go out and take on a quote-unquote 'bad contract' if it puts us in a tough spot just because we get an asset. I think we have to be very smart and understanding what that could do to us moving forward. "We don't want to be put in a corner, because cap space goes so quickly and it's so hard to get that flexibility back. I don't want to give that up if it's not the right situation, and so we'll be mindful of that and react accordingly based on the different situations that are presented to us. But from my perspective, I would like to have a little bit of flexibility." I seen his presser. I’m not sure he won’t take on a bad contract. He said he wants flexibility. He all but said he won’t take on any long term contracts. Including signing UFAs to long term deals. I could see him taking back a contract with a year on it. Or a full year on it. But I don’t think he goes much further than a year. Like the Connolly trade. Just not a good scenario. Hawks have Tyler Johnson and Brent Connolly as contracts they do not want. I only see them going a year for a contract!!! |
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Post by hsbob on May 20, 2022 19:58:31 GMT -6
Sounds like KD is not really interested in taking back bad contracts. Wonder if that will change if he really strips this team down with no 19, 88 & the Cat. Flexibility is a really important aspect of us moving forward," GM Kyle Davidson said. "I don't want to go out and take on a quote-unquote 'bad contract' if it puts us in a tough spot just because we get an asset. I think we have to be very smart and understanding what that could do to us moving forward. "We don't want to be put in a corner, because cap space goes so quickly and it's so hard to get that flexibility back. I don't want to give that up if it's not the right situation, and so we'll be mindful of that and react accordingly based on the different situations that are presented to us. But from my perspective, I would like to have a little bit of flexibility." I seen his presser. I’m not sure he won’t take on a bad contract. He said he wants flexibility. He all but said he won’t take on any long term contracts. Including signing UFAs to long term deals. I could see him taking back a contract with a year on it. Or a full year on it. But I don’t think he goes much further than a year. Like the Connolly trade. Just not a good scenario. Hawks have Tyler Johnson and Brent Connolly as contracts they do not want. I only see them going a year for a contract!!! Then he won’t sign any UFA’s or re-sign many RFA’s either unless it’s a ‘show me’ deal........maybe guys tryin’ to stay in the league will do a one year too. Should Dach only be offered a one year? Cap space will be the last of this team’s problems when K&T are gone anyway,drafting,otherwise acquiring and DEVELOPING the next group/core will make or brake the team for a decade and I’m runnin’ out of them! |
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Post by BigT on May 20, 2022 20:45:00 GMT -6
I seen his presser. I’m not sure he won’t take on a bad contract. He said he wants flexibility. He all but said he won’t take on any long term contracts. Including signing UFAs to long term deals. I could see him taking back a contract with a year on it. Or a full year on it. But I don’t think he goes much further than a year. Like the Connolly trade. Just not a good scenario. Hawks have Tyler Johnson and Brent Connolly as contracts they do not want. I only see them going a year for a contract!!! Then he won’t sign any UFA’s or re-sign many RFA’s either unless it’s a ‘show me’ deal........maybe guys tryin’ to stay in the league will do a one year too. Should Dach only be offered a one year? Cap space will be the last of this team’s problems when K&T are gone anyway,drafting,otherwise acquiring and DEVELOPING the next group/core will make or brake the team for a decade and I’m runnin’ out of them! He didn’t say he wouldn’t sign his own guys. I doubt he signs some RFA on another team to an offer sheet. I see no reason why he wouldn’t sign his own RFAs. He just said that it wasn’t in the plans to sign long term UFAs. He did say he would be interested in short term UFAs. Which is obviously the right way to go. No use signing long term UFAs during a rebuild!!! |
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Post by Nikos on May 20, 2022 21:07:27 GMT -6
Then he won’t sign any UFA’s or re-sign many RFA’s either unless it’s a ‘show me’ deal........maybe guys tryin’ to stay in the league will do a one year too. Should Dach only be offered a one year? Cap space will be the last of this team’s problems when K&T are gone anyway,drafting,otherwise acquiring and DEVELOPING the next group/core will make or brake the team for a decade and I’m runnin’ out of them! He didn’t say he wouldn’t sign his own guys. I doubt he signs some RFA on another team to an offer sheet. I see no reason why he wouldn’t sign his own RFAs. He just said that it wasn’t in the plans to sign long term UFAs. He did say he would be interested in short term UFAs. Which is obviously the right way to go. No use signing long term UFAs during a rebuild!!! Just sign one-year deals and then flip them at the next TBL for picks. I agree no way he extends an offer sheet to RFA (anyone that is good that is) cause then you have to give up draft assets. The only way this rebuild happens faster is if 19 & 88 agree to be moved and he finds a "Hagel" type offer for the Cat. I know some here want them to stay (I respect those opinions), but all it will do is extend the rebuild out much longer. |
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Post by hsbob on May 20, 2022 21:12:49 GMT -6
Then he won’t sign any UFA’s or re-sign many RFA’s either unless it’s a ‘show me’ deal........maybe guys tryin’ to stay in the league will do a one year too. Should Dach only be offered a one year? Cap space will be the last of this team’s problems when K&T are gone anyway,drafting,otherwise acquiring and DEVELOPING the next group/core will make or brake the team for a decade and I’m runnin’ out of them! He didn’t say he wouldn’t sign his own guys. I doubt he signs some RFA on another team to an offer sheet. I see no reason why he wouldn’t sign his own RFAs. He just said that it wasn’t in the plans to sign long term UFAs. He did say he would be interested in short term UFAs. Which is obviously the right way to go. No use signing long term UFAs during a rebuild!!! I said “re-sign” RFA’s,meaning his own and of course the team doesn’t sign any big UFA’s if it’s really a rebuild this time but you said “one year deals only “ and I pointed out few players sign one year deals. |
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Post by steamer on May 21, 2022 9:23:33 GMT -6
Back to that same basic question - is it a true rebuild which will take multiple drafts, lousy teams and patience? Or is the temptation too great to dip into the UFA pool - particularly if ownership gets impatient.
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Post by BigT on May 21, 2022 10:29:24 GMT -6
Back to that same basic question - is it a true rebuild which will take multiple drafts, lousy teams and patience? Or is the temptation too great to dip into the UFA pool - particularly if ownership gets impatient. I feel it’s a true rebuild. I really do. There’s nothing in the farm or in Jrs coming. They have no choice but to rebuild. The last guy wasted too much time, and now there’s no time to retool for 19/88. It’s best they just move on because this will keep getting worse. The rebuild hasn’t even begun yet. We’re still in the tear down mode. So the roster needs to be dismantled before it can be rebuilt. The team doesn’t possess a first rounder. The rebuild is more of a talking point right now!!! |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on May 21, 2022 20:47:44 GMT -6
Back to that same basic question - is it a true rebuild which will take multiple drafts, lousy teams and patience? Or is the temptation too great to dip into the UFA pool - particularly if ownership gets impatient. I feel it’s a true rebuild. I really do. There’s nothing in the farm or in Jrs coming. They have no choice but to rebuild. The last guy wasted too much time, and now there’s no time to retool for 19/88. It’s best they just move on because this will keep getting worse. The rebuild hasn’t even begun yet. We’re still in the tear down mode. So the roster needs to be dismantled before it can be rebuilt. The team doesn’t possess a first rounder. The rebuild is more of a talking point right now!!! They definitely need more depth in the farm but there's a few junior dmen all turning pro next season, Allan might turn out to be a top2 shutdown type or a solid top4, Crevier could be a big surprise next season as well as Del Mastro, one of those 3 could make the lineup with the other 2 in Rockford. Especially if Murphy is moved and hopefully Gus and de Haan are let go 🤞 Plus there's Philips who has the size and athleticism to play in the NHL, had a taste this season and responded well as the #1 in the AHL when Mitchell was injured. They need potential top6 forwards and not more bottom 6 guys, It'll be interesting to see how they draft and all the moves they make before next season. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on May 21, 2022 21:21:08 GMT -6
^^^Almost forgot big Dach, he had a really good season in juniors. He has instant chemistry with Kirby and could be KDs linemate next season.
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Post by nighbor on May 21, 2022 23:12:21 GMT -6
^^^Almost forgot big Dach, he had a really good season in juniors. He has instant chemistry with Kirby and could be KDs linemate next season. ADD DeBrincat and we will have the 3D line. |
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Post by hsbob on May 22, 2022 8:46:05 GMT -6
Back to that same basic question - is it a true rebuild which will take multiple drafts, lousy teams and patience? Or is the temptation too great to dip into the UFA pool - particularly if ownership gets impatient. We'll hav the answer to that and other important questions this summer. |
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Post by hsbob on May 22, 2022 9:10:34 GMT -6
I feel it’s a true rebuild. I really do. There’s nothing in the farm or in Jrs coming. They have no choice but to rebuild. The last guy wasted too much time, and now there’s no time to retool for 19/88. It’s best they just move on because this will keep getting worse. The rebuild hasn’t even begun yet. We’re still in the tear down mode. So the roster needs to be dismantled before it can be rebuilt. The team doesn’t possess a first rounder. The rebuild is more of a talking point right now!!! They definitely need more depth in the farm but there's a few junior dmen all turning pro next season, Allan might turn out to be a top2 shutdown type or a solid top4, Crevier could be a big surprise next season as well as Del Mastro, one of those 3 could make the lineup with the other 2 in Rockford. Especially if Murphy is moved and hopefully Gus and de Haan are let go 🤞 Plus there's Philips who has the size and athleticism to play in the NHL, had a taste this season and responded well as the #1 in the AHL when Mitchell was injured. They need potential top6 forwards and not more bottom 6 guys, It'll be interesting to see how they draft and all the moves they make before next season. HOPEFULLY Gus and deHAAN are let go? Both are obviously unsigned and if either are re-signed.......we'll know for sure little's changed. I don't see any way KD keeps either myself but moving Murphy's new deal.........good luck! If Jones is here to start his new deal,he'll also finish it here.......I like Jones but the contract is a crippling parting gift from DUMBASS. I like McCabe's toughness and he's okay........he'd be better for 2.75-3M. Murph's new deal I don't get with his injury history.....or without it for that matter.......he offers little offense,he's worth around 3M too. IMO Stillman is still young and deserves a full-time look next year.......tough kid too. C. Jones........the team has to have better,it'll be intertesting if he's re-signed and where he plays if he is. The team would be better served looking at more of their young guys IMO. That doesn't leave much room till Murph goers back on IR at some point and still not much,Mitchelle's at a point where the team needs to assess him @23 with one year left on his ELC. |
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Post by BigT on May 22, 2022 10:51:56 GMT -6
They definitely need more depth in the farm but there's a few junior dmen all turning pro next season, Allan might turn out to be a top2 shutdown type or a solid top4, Crevier could be a big surprise next season as well as Del Mastro, one of those 3 could make the lineup with the other 2 in Rockford. Especially if Murphy is moved and hopefully Gus and de Haan are let go 🤞 Plus there's Philips who has the size and athleticism to play in the NHL, had a taste this season and responded well as the #1 in the AHL when Mitchell was injured. They need potential top6 forwards and not more bottom 6 guys, It'll be interesting to see how they draft and all the moves they make before next season. HOPEFULLY Gus and deHAAN are let go? Both are obviously unsigned and if either are re-signed.......we'll know for sure little's changed. I don't see any way KD keeps either myself but moving Murphy's new deal.........good luck! If Jones is here to start his new deal,he'll also finish it here.......I like Jones but the contract is a crippling parting gift from DUMBASS. I like McCabe's toughness and he's okay........he'd be better for 2.75-3M. Murph's new deal I don't get with his injury history.....or without it for that matter.......he offers little offense,he's worth around 3M too. IMO Stillman is still young and deserves a full-time look next year.......tough kid too. C. Jones........the team has to have better,it'll be intertesting if he's re-signed and where he plays if he is. The team would be better served looking at more of their young guys IMO. That doesn't leave much room till Murph goers back on IR at some point and still not much,Mitchelle's at a point where the team needs to assess him @23 with one year left on his ELC. I agree on all accounts here. Especially Caleb. I’m not sure he’s an NHLer. He doesn’t possess much of anything for this level. Can’t keep the guy cuz of his bro. That’s just stupid on its own. I’ve said many times before that Murphy is a poor mans poor man. He just isn’t what is needed and his unwillingness to stick up for his tenders and other team mates is not for me!!! |
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