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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 8, 2022 20:21:57 GMT -6
Why does he look like Dylan Sikura? Hopefully on skates not so much. : ) |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 8, 2022 20:24:21 GMT -6
No...a good copy/paste. This kid Wally Maz on twitter come up with it. I just posted it here. He's only 18 but he consistently comes up with quality hawks' stuff. He's a good follow. Still, you copied it here and were the first to mention him. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 8, 2022 20:40:10 GMT -6
No...a good copy/paste. This kid Wally Maz on twitter come up with it. I just posted it here. He's only 18 but he consistently comes up with quality hawks' stuff. He's a good follow. Still, you copied it here and were the first to mention him. I do it for post count and post count only. I don't even read half the shit i post. : D |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 8, 2022 21:38:40 GMT -6
I can't believe we're not talking about this guy! www.eliteprospects.com/player/364228/liam-gormanA 2022 6th rounder for a 2018 6th rounder. I guess that's why. He's got a bit of size. Besides that... There must be something there that someone likes. |
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Post by jacksalmon on Jul 8, 2022 22:01:13 GMT -6
Well, Rome was not built in a day and a Cup contender is not built in one draft season. This is a very strange time for Hawk fans. Got a bunch of draft picks this year and it is hard to believe they are all gold nuggets. Of course, no one will know a damn thing for 3 to 4 years, so it is a long wait. I fully suspect that they will getting even better picks over the next few years with their bottom dwelling finishes. There will be many more draft picks in the years to come.
I still wonder what will happen with Kane and Toews. I can't belive for one second that two vibrant guys like them will be happy mentoring a bunch of guys who won't be amounting to much for awhile, if ever. My guess is that both Kane and Toews will want out sooner than later and will try to move out to more exciting times for themselves and their careers. There is no reason to be "loyal" to the Hawks and stick around to lose.
When they go there will be even more draft picks to add to the collection. That is, unless they get some semi-established young players in return for Kane and Toews and forego the draft picks. At some point, management might want some players who have at least semi-proved themselves as semi-quality players rather than continuing to take a chance at the draft pick roulette table.
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Post by bigbarn27 on Jul 8, 2022 22:22:24 GMT -6
Dont post here much but this guy is touted as a hagel clone and seems to have the traits davidson is looking for. Ludwinski is a 5’11” and 183-pound left-handed center/winger who spent all of the 2021/2022 season with the Kingston Frontenacs. He got better as the year went along, even featuring on Shane Wright’s line, and had an excellent OHL playoffs.
The 18-year-old forward is a ball full of energy. He’s one of the best skaters in this draft (speed, stride and acceleration), he’s persistent (hard on pucks, wins countless puck battles and endless motor), and he’s very versatile.wallymaz.substack.com/p/2022-nhl-draft-prospect-profile-paul?r=6bpcw&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=webGood call, went at 39 not 38 but I like everything I've heard and seen from this kid, definitely sounds like a Hagel clone. He started the season on Wrights wing but struggled, after he was moved to 2C he flourished and that's where he should play, but he's very versatile. One scout said he's all gas and no brake. He had 7g-5a=12pts in 11 playoff games. This kid could be a perfect 3C or possibly a 2C with his high motor and 2way play. Yeah people stated played to fast for OHL play, should be a fun one to watch also the Savoie kid hit anything that moves bottom 6 guy another high motor. |
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Post by 2old4this on Jul 8, 2022 22:41:30 GMT -6
I wonder if Debrincat would be willing to return to the fold when his contract expires, lol. Winnipeg didn't get him to sign an extension. Hey, it's a cutthroat world.
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 8, 2022 22:56:30 GMT -6
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 9, 2022 4:33:21 GMT -6
Savoie likes to model his game after Marchand and Bennett, so basically a hard working pest who's good around the net, I like it. After watching lots of vids and reading reports on all our new prospects I feel the same about Nazar, Korchinski, and Ludwinski but also Rinzel and all the picks in the first 3 rounds. Savoie, Hayes, Thompson in the 3rd round are good picks. Savoie is 5'10" 190lbs and looks like a short stocky New Yorker with a french name but he's from New Brunswick and played in the QMJHL. Hayes has good size and isn't lacking confidence plus Thompson is a Colorado kid who put up 82pts in his 2nd season in the USHL and he's committing to the University of Denver. All 3 could be solid depth players in Chicago or Rockford. As for the 2nd round, we know Ludwinski now and the kid seems special but lets not forget the other 2nd, Greene, 6'1" tough Newfoundlander who's a 2way right handed center and he played in the USHL and had 51pts, he'll be playing at BU next season. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 9, 2022 5:06:27 GMT -6
Savoie likes to model his game after Marchand and Bennett, so basically a hard working pest who's good around the net, I like it. After watching lots of vids and reading reports on all our new prospects I feel the same about Nazar, Korchinski, and Ludwinski but also all the picks in the first 3 rounds. Savoie, Hayes, Thompson in the 3rd round are good picks. Savoie is 5'10" 190lbs and looks like a short stocky New Yorker with a french name but he's from New Brunswick and played in the QMJHL. Hayes has good size and isn't lacking confidence plus Thompson is a Colorado kid who put up 82pts in his 2nd season in the USHL and he's committing to the University of Denver. All 3 could be solid depth players in Chicago or Rockford. As for the 2nd round, we know Ludwinski now and the kid seems special but lets not forget the other 2nd, Greene, tough Newfoundlander. I like them all but i only love most of them. : ) Idk man....maybe it's the change of management or maybe it's just a biased view of recent picks...but i got a good feeling about this process. Like there's 2 hands on the wheel with the GPS working perfectly. Or maybe it's the beer and the weed. Anyways....same as everyone here. I've got 3 cups under my belt. I'm ready to embrace the suck. Let's see what happens in 5 years. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 9, 2022 5:31:11 GMT -6
Savoie likes to model his game after Marchand and Bennett, so basically a hard working pest who's good around the net, I like it. After watching lots of vids and reading reports on all our new prospects I feel the same about Nazar, Korchinski, and Ludwinski but also all the picks in the first 3 rounds. Savoie, Hayes, Thompson in the 3rd round are good picks. Savoie is 5'10" 190lbs and looks like a short stocky New Yorker with a french name but he's from New Brunswick and played in the QMJHL. Hayes has good size and isn't lacking confidence plus Thompson is a Colorado kid who put up 82pts in his 2nd season in the USHL and he's committing to the University of Denver. All 3 could be solid depth players in Chicago or Rockford. As for the 2nd round, we know Ludwinski now and the kid seems special but lets not forget the other 2nd, Greene, tough Newfoundlander. I like them all but i only love most of them. : ) Idk man....maybe it's the change of management or maybe it's just a biased view of recent picks...but i got a good feeling about this process. Like there's 2 hands on the wheel with the GPS working perfectly. Or maybe it's the beer and the weed. Anyways....same as everyone here. I've got 3 cups under my belt. I'm ready to embrace the suck. Let's see what happens in 5 years. It's like the last GM had it on auto pilot and someone hacked the GPS, so it's refreshing that KD is transparent and doing what he said he'd do. Loving most is better than one or none, if I had to use the L word I'd use it on the first 4 selected. But yeah I definitely like the next 4. Having 8 picks in the first 3 rounds is a lot of picks, I'm sure you can dig it up but have the Hawks ever drafted that many in the first 3 before? And I've mentioned it before but I'd rather have a young team that sucks and learning than what the Hawks had the past few years. A top3 pick next year will help speed this up, especially if it's Bedard. |
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Post by acesandeights on Jul 9, 2022 9:07:46 GMT -6
Gavin Hayes with the 66th, so they got Nazar and Hayes for Dach. Hayes sounds like a strong winger with speed, skill, and great release. 16 of his 19 goals were at even strength and 24 of his 32 points at even strength were primary points. Another winger with a high motor and plays a complete game. I'm liking the trend towards above average skaters with excellent work ethics. "High motor" seemed to be one of the themes of the Hawks draft. Smaht Scouting had an interesting way to put it; they described Paul Ludwinski as "all gas, no brakes". Reading about Ludwinski made me think of Landon Slaggert. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 9, 2022 15:23:52 GMT -6
I'm liking the trend towards above average skaters with excellent work ethics. "High motor" seemed to be one of the themes of the Hawks draft. Smaht Scouting had an interesting way to put it; they described Paul Ludwinski as "all gas, no brakes". Reading about Ludwinski made me think of Landon Slaggert. I like how Ludwinski said he goes 200mph every shift and how that scout said he's all gas, no brake. I've only seen Slaggert at the World Juniors and he does play hard but the big difference is that he was taken 79th, Ludwinski was taken 39th because he has more potential. But you can't have too many high energy guys on the team. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 9, 2022 17:35:58 GMT -6
I like them all but i only love most of them. : ) Idk man....maybe it's the change of management or maybe it's just a biased view of recent picks...but i got a good feeling about this process. Like there's 2 hands on the wheel with the GPS working perfectly. Or maybe it's the beer and the weed. Anyways....same as everyone here. I've got 3 cups under my belt. I'm ready to embrace the suck. Let's see what happens in 5 years. Having 8 picks in the first 3 rounds is a lot of picks, I'm sure you can dig it up but have the Hawks ever drafted that many in the first 3 before? Since the draft came to be in 1963, 8 picks in the first 3 rounds is the most we've ever had. Best we've done prior was 6 picks (1980, 2004, 2010 and 2011). Never had 3 first round picks before but we've had 2 first rounders 5 times. Dan Cleary/Ty Jones in 1997. Jones went on to a stellar 14 game career. Mikhail Yakubov/Pavel Vorobiev in 2000. They finished their careers with 110 games combined. Tuomu Ruutu/Adam Munro in 2001. Munro was a goalie who racked up 4 wins in his career. Mark McNeill/Phillip Danault in 2011. McNeill managed 2 nhl games. Boqvist/Beaudin in 2018. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chicago_Blackhawks_draft_picks |
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Post by steamer on Jul 9, 2022 17:45:17 GMT -6
Guess you can expect to hit on half of ‘em - eh?
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 9, 2022 18:01:02 GMT -6
Guess you can expect to hit on half of ‘em - eh? Hopefully that's a trend that gets reversed. We'll see in a few years i guess. |
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Post by tincup on Jul 9, 2022 18:17:28 GMT -6
I'm liking the trend towards above average skaters with excellent work ethics. "High motor" seemed to be one of the themes of the Hawks draft. Smaht Scouting had an interesting way to put it; they described Paul Ludwinski as "all gas, no brakes". Reading about Ludwinski made me think of Landon Slaggert. Kingston has some players moving on due to overaging and if Wright sticks Ludwinsky might be the top center. A nice step up in responsibility. It'd be nice for some of these other speedsters to become solid offensive contributors as well so we aren't just looking at Lafferty replacements. |
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Post by acesandeights on Jul 9, 2022 18:55:59 GMT -6
"High motor" seemed to be one of the themes of the Hawks draft. Smaht Scouting had an interesting way to put it; they described Paul Ludwinski as "all gas, no brakes". Reading about Ludwinski made me think of Landon Slaggert. I like how Ludwinski said he goes 200mph every shift and how that scout said he's all gas, no brake. I've only seen Slaggert at the World Juniors and he does play hard but the big difference is that he was taken 79th, Ludwinski was taken 39th because he has more potential. But you can't have too many high energy guys on the team. What would you bet Ludwinski would become a fan favorite in Chicago? On the bolded part; That should create some good competition in the near future. In addition to the high energy guys taken in this years draft, there's Slaggert from the 2020 draft, plus remember the Swedish kid taken in the 4th rd. in last year's draft, Victor Stjernborg. If I remember correctly, he also is a very high motor guy that's good defensively but not much on offense. Was he the one that got injured and missed part of his season? |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 9, 2022 19:23:35 GMT -6
I like how Ludwinski said he goes 200mph every shift and how that scout said he's all gas, no brake. I've only seen Slaggert at the World Juniors and he does play hard but the big difference is that he was taken 79th, Ludwinski was taken 39th because he has more potential. But you can't have too many high energy guys on the team. What would you bet Ludwinski would become a fan favorite in Chicago? On the bolded part; That should create some good competition in the near future. In addition to the high energy guys taken in this years draft, there's Slaggert from the 2020 draft, plus remember the Swedish kid taken in the 4th rd. in last year's draft, Victor Stjernborg. If I remember correctly, he also is a very high motor guy that's good defensively but not much on offense. Was he the one that got injured and missed part of his season? Stjerborg missed most of last season and he put up good numbers in the lower leagues. Young guys in the elite leagues usually play less but if he has a good World Juniors he should see more ice time next season. And I'd bet my left...well you know lol watching his highlights, reading the reports, and listening to his interviews he's already one of my favorites from this draft. |
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Post by acesandeights on Jul 9, 2022 19:41:00 GMT -6
"High motor" seemed to be one of the themes of the Hawks draft. Smaht Scouting had an interesting way to put it; they described Paul Ludwinski as "all gas, no brakes". Reading about Ludwinski made me think of Landon Slaggert. Kingston has some players moving on due to overaging and if Wright sticks Ludwinsky might be the top center. A nice step up in responsibility. It'd be nice for some of these other speedsters to become solid offensive contributors as well so we aren't just looking at Lafferty replacements. That really would be good. On one of the scouting reports I read about Paul Ludwinski, the analyst made a general comment saying unfortunately much of the time these prospects that have high motors and work hard just don't have the offensive part of the game. And that high energy and hard work is about all they offer. He did say he thought that Ludwinski had some offensive abilities in addition to the high motor, and felt he had the ability to put up more offense than what he has shown so far. So, maybe a step up in responsibility will help his offensive production, in addition to going into his second season for Kingston. Should I say his second season to actually play. |
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Post by phill9 on Jul 9, 2022 20:11:53 GMT -6
I'm liking the trend towards above average skaters with excellent work ethics. "High motor" seemed to be one of the themes of the Hawks draft. Smaht Scouting had an interesting way to put it; they described Paul Ludwinski as "all gas, no brakes". Reading about Ludwinski made me think of Landon Slaggert. Sounds a bit like former Hawk Viktor Stalberg. Guy could fly but couldn't take advantage of his speed |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 9, 2022 20:36:46 GMT -6
"High motor" seemed to be one of the themes of the Hawks draft. Smaht Scouting had an interesting way to put it; they described Paul Ludwinski as "all gas, no brakes". Reading about Ludwinski made me think of Landon Slaggert. Sounds a bit like former Hawk Viktor Stalberg. Guy could fly but couldn't take advantage of his speed Speed and having a high motor are two different things, Viktor could skate but he didn't have the drive or consistency, just like Perlini. |
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 9, 2022 20:52:12 GMT -6
Kingston has some players moving on due to overaging and if Wright sticks Ludwinsky might be the top center. A nice step up in responsibility. It'd be nice for some of these other speedsters to become solid offensive contributors as well so we aren't just looking at Lafferty replacements. That really would be good. On one of the scouting reports I read about Paul Ludwinski, the analyst made a general comment saying unfortunately much of the time these prospects that have high motors and work hard just don't have the offensive part of the game. And that high energy and hard work is about all they offer. He did say he thought that Ludwinski had some offensive abilities in addition to the high motor, and felt he had the ability to put up more offense than what he has shown so far. So, maybe a step up in responsibility will help his offensive production, in addition to going into his second season for Kingston. Should I say his second season to actually play. Ludwinski had respectable numbers for his first season in the OHL, 16g-27a=43pts, but in 11 playoff games he had 7g-5a=12pts. He stepped up when the games were more important. |
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Post by BigT on Jul 9, 2022 21:38:52 GMT -6
We’re at a tourney right now in Toronta. I ran into a few cool folks. One parent on our team works for the Hawks! We were talking about Nazer. The hockey world is very high on him. He seems like a can’t miss prospect. I also seen a lot of scouts I know and met a couple more. We had some drinks together tonight. Actually a lot. So the consensus thought is that Nazer should have been a top 5 pick. He’s the real deal. Ottawa scout said they had him going at 7.
Anyways. Met a lot of awesome people from Chicago Fury. We’re gonna meet up again best year. Even the fella that works for the Hawks. He’s not in management. He’s in sales and promotions. But still had a lot of insight!!!
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Post by OldTimeHawky on Jul 9, 2022 21:57:34 GMT -6
We’re at a tourney right now in Toronta. I ran into a few cool folks. One parent on our team works for the Hawks! We were talking about Nazer. The hockey world is very high on him. He seems like a can’t miss prospect. I also seen a lot of scouts I know and met a couple more. We had some drinks together tonight. Actually a lot. So the consensus thought is that Nazer should have been a top 5 pick. He’s the real deal. Ottawa scout said they had him going at 7. Anyways. Met a lot of awesome people from Chicago Fury. We’re gonna meet up again best year. Even the fella that works for the Hawks. He’s not in management. He’s in sales and promotions. But still had a lot of insight!!! Nazar should've been in the top10 and Korchinski just outside of 10, both special kids with a lot of skill. Nazar learns and progresses fast so he might be in the NHL after next season, 2yrs max. It wouldn't be rushing him because he already has elite speed and thinks the game fast. There's a video of him isolating every shift, it's a great watch, his skating is so effortless and he works very hard. He isn't afraid to shoot and he's great at it but his passing is just as good. Can't wait to see him and many other Blackhawks at the World Juniors. |
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Post by tincup on Jul 9, 2022 22:06:08 GMT -6
We’re at a tourney right now in Toronta. I ran into a few cool folks. One parent on our team works for the Hawks! We were talking about Nazer. The hockey world is very high on him. He seems like a can’t miss prospect. I also seen a lot of scouts I know and met a couple more. We had some drinks together tonight. Actually a lot. So the consensus thought is that Nazer should have been a top 5 pick. He’s the real deal. Ottawa scout said they had him going at 7. T Anyways. Met a lot of awesome people from Chicago Fury. We’re gonna meet up again best year. Even the fella that works for the Hawks. He’s not in management. He’s in sales and promotions. But still had a lot of insight!!! There's some who say he vaults over Reichel and becomes the top prospect. I can see it. |
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Post by vadarx on Jul 9, 2022 22:12:39 GMT -6
I was so happy when Frankie was available at 13 and even happier when KD said his name. I was hoping they took him at 7...
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Post by vadarx on Jul 9, 2022 22:14:32 GMT -6
We’re at a tourney right now in Toronta. I ran into a few cool folks. One parent on our team works for the Hawks! We were talking about Nazer. The hockey world is very high on him. He seems like a can’t miss prospect. I also seen a lot of scouts I know and met a couple more. We had some drinks together tonight. Actually a lot. So the consensus thought is that Nazer should have been a top 5 pick. He’s the real deal. Ottawa scout said they had him going at 7. T Anyways. Met a lot of awesome people from Chicago Fury. We’re gonna meet up again best year. Even the fella that works for the Hawks. He’s not in management. He’s in sales and promotions. But still had a lot of insight!!! There's some who say he vaults over Reichel and becomes the top prospect. I can see it. Korchinski and Nazar both are ahead of him, imo. |
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Post by galaxytrash on Jul 9, 2022 22:46:10 GMT -6
So the consensus thought is that Nazer should have been a top 5 pick. He’s the real deal. Ottawa scout said they had him going at 7. This site picked nazar as their projected "steal of the draft" a couple weeks before the event. It mentioned that although dobber prospects and elite prospects had him ranked #4 and #5 respectively, central scouting and craig button both had him outside the top 20 and bob mckenzie had him outside the top 10. They say a lot of nice things about him in this article. thehockeywriters.com/2022-nhl-draft-steal-frank-nazar/ |
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Post by steamer on Jul 10, 2022 8:38:45 GMT -6
Before reading this I kind of thought of him as a Ryan Hartman type but apparently the talent level and speed are potentially better. Sounds great!!
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